Blog Selling Discussion
Posted on 26 November 2007 by DeanHunt
There have been a lot of high profile blogs sold in the past few weeks. One of the biggest was CashQuests.com which sold recently at Sitepoint for $15,000.
This lead Courtney to write a blog post entitled before you sell your blog.
As someone who has bought and sold many blogs, and is part of a team that spends 6 figures per year buying sites, I thought I may as well add my 2c to the frame.
Now, despite the headline of this article, there are some very valid points that Courtney makes, and he states that: “Kumiko sold CashQuests because she didn’t have the time to dedicate anymore. I’m ok with that. If she had sold it just for the money, I would have been upset.”
However, I believe there are a few areas that Courtney has missed out on:
Earnings of x2 - x5 years are pretty much a fantasy in “blog” sales.

Sure, we would all like to think our blog will fetch x5 years revenue, and perhaps Courtney won’t settle for less than x5 years, but that doesn’t mean it is worth it. I wouldn’t accept less than $1 million for my DeanHunt.com site, but it is not worth that much, and I doubt there is anyone mad enough to pay that for it.
From my experience of having negotiations with over 860 blog and website owners in 2007, anything above x18 months for a blog is very much the exception. You only need to go through Sitepoint to see this for yourself.
Again, I must stress, this refers only to blogs.
I actually feel $20,000 would have been achievable for CashQuests, and I would personally have offered that amount if I had seen the auction in time, but there are a few reasons that blogs are NOT and have never been valued at x5 years.
The value is in the blogger

When a blog is sold, so is it’s soul and character. I have seen cases where a blog has lost 10% of it’s RSS readers on the day the new owner introduced himself. You have to account for this when valuing a blog.
Blogs are VERY high maintenance

I should know, I write for 10 of them. 9 times out of 10 the blog seller is selling because they don’t have the time anymore. This HAS to be factored into the valuation.
For example, Courtney finished his article by saying: “Time is your friend. Starting over is your enemy.”, yet he forgets to factor time into her calculations/argument.
For example, he believes that CashQuests could be sold for $35,000 in two years time. Whilst I don’t doubt this is a possibility, he forgot to factor in the time and effort of achieving this figure.
For a start you are going to have to fill some VERY big shoes, so it will be an uphill climb from day one. Secondly, you are going to have to work very hard in what is such a competitive industry. We all know that “make money” blogs are a dime a dozen. There are thousands being created each month, and it only takes a personal incident or brief lack of focus to wipe out 6 months of hard work.
So let’s presume that the new owner would have to put in an average of 3 hours per day, 5 days a week. This includes emails, list building, joint ventures, checking stats, reading other blogs for research, writing blog posts, editing, finding images, dealing with advertisers etc…
All of the above is vital in such an industry, and getting to a $35,000 valuation in two years means we will probably have to work EVEN HARDER than the previous owner, so 15 hours a week is pretty accurate in my opinion.
Now, we are not clones, so this is 15 hours where we could be doing something else.
Personally I have an exact figure that I use to value my time, but if someone is being successful in this industry, then I think $50 per hour should be the absolute minimum value of our hourly time. Mine is a lot higher, I am sure yours is as well, but let’s use it for the sake of accuracy.
* So, each hour of our time is $50 that we could be making elsewhere.
* We do 3 hours per day.
* We do 5 days a week (most bloggers do 6 or 7, especially in such a cut throat industry, but again, let’s keep it simple).
* $50 x 3 x 5 = $750 per week
* If we multiply this by a 52 week year, we have a grand total of $39,000
So in other words, we are losing $39,000 that we could/should be making from our time, and investing this $39,000 into our new blog. If we use Courtney’s two year timescale we get $78,000 of our own personal time invested into the project.
So if we do manage to hit our goal, and we do make the $35,000 blog sale after two years, then we would be at a two year loss of $43,000
However, the site was making $1400 per month (revenue, not profit), and we should include this into our calculation as well.
In fact, let’s go as far as to say that after hosting, ads, and any other expenses, we are able to raise the monthly average over a two year period to a whopping $1700 PROFIT per month. We multiply by two years = $40,800 in profit.
So,
$40,800 profit
+
$35,000 blog sale
= $75,800
Now we deduct our own investment of $78,000 and we make a LOSS of $2,200 for the two years.
This is why revenue figures of x2 and x5 years simply don’t stack up for blogs. People are using multiples from brick and mortar businesses from the 90’s and applying them to what is essentially an online diary without an author. The numbers just don’t stack up!
Unfortunately most blog owners feel the same as Courtney, and 9 times out of 10 I get given the x2 or x5 year multiples as “industry standards”, when the reality is that x10 - x12 months are a lot closer to the actual industry standards.
It was a little ironic that Courtney closed his blog post by reminding us that time is our friend, yet he forgot to include it in her argument. All entrepreneurs know that time is the single most important thing we posses, and if you are going to value your own time at zero, then you are simply not going to succeed in business.
Disclaimer: I really like Courtney, and many of the points he made were very accurate, but as long as articles and multiples of x2 and x5 are spread around the net, it will continue to make blog buying and selling a very frustrating process for all involved.
I would welcome Courtney’s feedback on this.






November 26th, 2007 at 11:36 am
I think the article “The Webmaster Delusion” published at midascode.co.uk can be related to this article. Nice demonstration !
http://midascode.co.uk/blog/the-webmaster-delusion/
November 26th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
Sorry but your point of view totally misses the point of my post. I said that if you wait, you can sell the blog to a business. You’re right, you probably can’t sell it to a person for that multiple.
Time isn’t as much of a factor for businesses that have a staff of 15 copywriters. When Logoworks (owned by HP) bought a logo design blog for $250,000, do you think they worried about how they were going to write about logo design?
Sorry guys, bloggers have to stop thinking that they rule the business universe. There are bigger things out there.
November 26th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
Courtney - thanks for taking the time to reply.
There is no doubt that mega businesses do from time to time pay over the odds for a site or blog that fits in perfectly with their niche/goals. When this happens it tends to be BIG news, and therfore we get to hear about them every now and then.
But these events are one in a million, yet your article is written in a way that suggests that CashQuests could very well have been in this position.
Also, those businesses find you, not the other way around, so let’s presume that CashQuests owner rejected the $15,000 despite not having the time to run it anymore, how would you suggest that she goes about finding this one in a billion business that is going to be happy to pay someone $25k+ a year to write for the blog, when they could just as easily use their brand and put a blog on their subdomain, have more pulling power, search engine power and brand power, and save themselves $35k?
Perhaps you can tell us about the mega businesses that have offered 6 figures+ for your blog? I presume you have a lot of experience in it, otherwise you wouldn’t be advising people to do the same.
Don’t get me wrong, I know that such deals happen, I have seen them first hand, but you must surely know that basing your selling position and valuations on such freak events is a little strange.
Your points are valid, there is no doubt about that, but if any mega business was interested in CashQuests, they would have made contact by now.
A good friend of mine is selling Blogtrepreneur, and the sale is being discussed all over the Internet. If there are any mega businesses interested, then they will make contact.
Also, big business owners probably check sites like Sitepoint.com from time to time, so it is not a case of one or the other.
I felt your points were valid, but essentially you were recommending that people base their financial and business lives on the one in a billion chance that some mega company comes and offers silly money.
I prefer to focus on more realistic options, otherwise we would all just sit in bed all day on the basis that we may all one day win the lottery.
Thanks again for your feedback.
Dean
November 26th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Tom, yes, there are elements of the webmaster delusion in this example.
Courtney is a top class blogger, and someone I have a lot of respect for, but I would certainly be keen to know how many major blog sales she has completed in the past 12 months.
Dean
November 26th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Dean please go read the article again. You’re taking the whole argument out of context because you’re not considering the fact that I gave reasons why CashQuests could improve their position easily. That’s the whole point Dean.
You’re arguing what CashQuests is worth now, and my argument has nothing to do with what that site is worth now.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:13 am
I find it funny that the excuse of ‘not having time for the blog anymore’ is taken at face value.
Not only has their always been speculation that Kumiko wasn’t who she said she was, but she deliberately removed her identity from her site prior to the sale, citing reasons of it being ‘all about making money’.
Strange reasoning for someone who had been so well-received, no?
I have no ill feelings towards Kumiko, and enjoyed her blogging journey.
I do, however, suspect her reasoning for selling her blog!
December 17th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Interesting point of view. I have always felt that most of the value of the blog is the writer… so some of it - is just the domain and the traffic - but then you have to find another writer.